Liverpool's title defence is statistically the worst ever after 25 games as they have dropped 33 points compared to the same point last season. On Premier League Tonight, Paul Scholes and Jermaine Jenas looked at what has gone wrong.
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What has gone wrong at Liverpool this season? Scholes and Jenas on title defences in Premier League
Publicat pe 22 feb. 2021
Comentarii
Alex Fearn
Why is Jenas having a say? Invite me on next time - I’ve won as much as him in the prem
Damien LEEN
Eh Foxy...when Keane was out for most of the season with that injury Utd won bugger all...so whoever came inti ur team did bugger alll...so stpp going on about no strength in depth for Liverpool
Arron Bowers
The title of this video is the most ridiculous question I’ve ever seen!
Forever England
Now Robertson shouts at players instead of tackling them is one of the problems.
Instinct Matters
To be fair even with VVD and rest out defence around, Liverpool was still conceding goals. First game of PL Liverpool conceded 3 goals.
Max Heimann
liverpool might miss the cl - so tiago went from cl winner to euro league... and klopp teams tend to become slightly worse after some years - look @ bvb 7s season - from 2. to 7. -and in liverpool now from 1. to 6... also they `ve been realy biten by the injury bugg... losing van djik was just devasting... (also guardiola would probably trade his championships for 1cl...)
Akii 24
Imagine Utd without Rio and Vidic for a whole season and having to play Fletcher and Scholes at the back😂😂
And then they get injured😂😂
Iz Muhd
We got brown,evans,O'shea or carrick will fill that spot.. Sir Alex was a Genius.
jakenconor
Losing Keane was like losing three....
Says it all . Thats greatness
Eppu Talvinko
Is it really still needed to ask when everyone can see it🤣
Life is Blessed
Van Dijk,Gomez,Matip,Henderson,Fabinho,Jota all first team players that play a massive part in the way Liverpool attack,When Van Dijk and Gomes/Matip are in defence it allows robbo and trent to charge forward,Fabinho Henderson Wijnaldum protected the back line and wing backs too allow Mane Firmino and Salah freedom to attack.Liverpool Defend and Attack as a unit and when 5-6 first team players are missing any team would struggle,if Man City lost Laporte,Dias,Stones Ricardo and Gundogan all around the same time they would struggle...YNWA
Aniq Ahmad
Van dijk is like superman to loserpool they relied this guy too much but when he is gone well they become a loserpool 😏
sammië rosexx3
I read somewhere scholes is a bag of stone and jena has charisma thats why hes included... I agree on the scholes part but the 2nd part not so much...
Alan Rowell
Scholes-"We lost Roy Keane for 7/8 months" ya and Arsenal won the league, kind of contradictory point youre making there Paul.
Ice Cool
It is abundantly clear that Klopp thought the first XI would never get injured and keep the same pace for years. To be fair they have done it for the last 3 years but now the squad is so depleated Compared to other teams around them, their subs are so weak- Origi, Jones, Ox, Keita, Adrian. No game changers
K2edg
"Worse title defense ever!!" when i heard that i was expecting more than 1 point difference.......... i mean Liverpool don't lose at Anfield and to lose 4 in a row there is some thing really wrong, on top of that the conversion rate has dropped from 22% to 9% so Firmino and mane are having this season off for a rest........... On another note truly great to VVD back in training!! hopefully he will be back training with the first team very shortly and it's looking like late march early April for a return :D
Arif Khan
what is with the airport announcements?
realnesx
Liverpool luck has been bad klopp and Allison lost there parents and the injuries are on another level.
Liverpool Team decapitated only players not getting injured is mane firmimho and salah which is why they must be drained out playing every game
borray s
Lets not forget that BBC paid Jenas' opinion on football 😂
Ash Williams
Love how scholes didnt wanna get into whatdve happened to united without vidic Ferdinand, he wouldntve won nout
borray s
@Ash Williams only league cup? Lol Klopp would be extremely grateful if he ever had a chance to win league cup this season.
Ash Williams
@borray s yeah with vidic and Ferdinand and that was only a league cup.
borray s
United won league cup and finished 2nd in the PL 09/10.
Joe Cully
Problem is having to play our 2 best midfielders, Henderson, fabinho in defence.
lartiev Qays
Scholes..yups..super legend's..m
That boi?...who?... damnit..need to google...
swamp thing
Pickford knew exactly what he was doing !
awesome x Innocent
I've always thought that klopp is not the genius he was said to be... He just stumbled upon something the premier league wasn't ready for when becoming Liverpool manager but he was never really that good.. I just think this has been coming for a while, managers don't just become geniuses by changing from Germany to England.. I'm sure from now on it will be like Dortmond all over again
borray s
Nonsense. Klopp is the best manager in PL atm. what hes done so far is nothing but miracle. People need to start asking question about FSG commitment to the club, its been 2 years since they made serious investment.
colin francis
pretty simple really. last season city lost laporte ,one player was 17 points adrift. liverpool have lost 5~6 key players in key positions mainly defence and that has affected trent and robinson going forward providing for the front three
Aurun 50
Injures, too reliant on Van Dijk because Van Dijk was so crucial in the attacking and defending.
Andybdub
WADA must be showing up at Anfield alot more these days with all the asthmatics in the squad
ng
remember the season when they flop a 20 point lead??? thats why
Steve L
Liverpool are mid-table because they don't get penalties
Paul Johnson
God jermaine jenas is annoying and WHY IS HE EVERYWHERE
Seb
People's pure, blind hatred for Liverpool has literally made them ignore context and history.
Trophy Guide 101
If there is one thing I have learnt from reading YouTube comments its that their form has nothing to do with several key players being injured and other key players being forced to play out of position, the truth is the team that won the CL one year and the Premier League the next were just faking it the entire time. They have been exposed for Championship level team they truly were all this time...
George Tolofari
Great title defence is not fair were man city supposed to get 121 in 2019
Gerrard Gerrard
I've literally never seen a team try and defend a title with so many injuries, they'll be back next season. Not a Liverpool fan but no team in the world could get by with so many injuries.
borray s
Watch United under SAF then...
Mason Turner
2005 all over again. One hit wonders
Trophy Guide 101
Surely two hit wonders with the CL the year before?
Bob Shrubb
I have worked it out Leicester had 53 points after week 25 when they won the title, the following season they had 23 points at the same stage the following year, this season we have 40 points, so we have accrued 17 more points after 25 games so how are we worse?
borray s
@Bob Shrubb uh well i agree. Thats exactly my point. Liverpool bcame the worst defending champions just bcause how good they were last season. Hence why i find it ludicrous.
Bob Shrubb
@borray s exactly it does but that should not have anything to do with the points this season
borray s
@Bob Shrubb it shows how good liverpool was last season.
Bob Shrubb
@borray s Liverpool are 17 points better off after 25 games than Leicester were in their title defending season, yet somehow we are worse?
borray s
Tbh that logic doesnt make iota sense. There are far worse champions than liverpool. Chelsea, Leicester, or Moyes' Man United comes to mind
Mr JamToast
Sick of hearing this debate as if it's a mystery. They have their best midfielders who provide energy and breakup play in CB. Obviously they shouldn't lose to teams like Burnley and Brighton but man city are probably the only ones who ain't lost games like that.
James Hill
Go on Scholesy.. Let them have it.
Bob Shrubb
We are one point worse off than Leicester at the same point we are 33 points worse off we won our league with 19 points more than they won theirs.
Bob Shrubb
So Liverpool are penalised for getting so many points after 25 games last season
What
There was a time when people were saying that this current liverpool team was better than United's treble winning side.
United won THE treble, then went on to win the league again by an even bigger gap, and won it yet AGAIN the season after that.
Liverpool got knocked out of everything last season and have absolutely disgraced themselves this season. It was never even a competition to begin with but its certainly put to bed now.
What
Liverpool's first PL title defence, and the PL's worst ever title defence.
Laugh. Out. Loud.
Niallmcloughlinf1
Jermaine seems to have forgotten the times United played Carrick, fletcher or Park at the back because they were so thin on defenders. Guess what, they still won, they adapted
Cacao613
Did they do it on a regular basis for half a season?
Mahib-Ul Haque
Me looking at the thumbnail glad arsenal aren’t there 😂
Sledge Dog
This Liverpool team is a squad full of average players along with very few actual world class players who overperformed under Klopp for two seasons and are now back to their usual self.
saad Usman
not really. weve had many injuries
james orritt
Thing is with Liverpool the season before they won was on a knifes edge, if city hadn’t been so fantastic they most likely would of won 2 in a row
K2edg
10mm is all that stood between Liverpool beating City......... crazy how close that was. Still Champions league was a good condolence prize.
Kamikaze
Liverpool winning the P/L last season was an anomaly, they will most likely have to wait 20 years to win it again.
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They've had a bad season it happens, outside of City none of the big 6 have had good seasons.
Tendwai Nyakambangwe
bruh what, im a city fan but United have been quite good as well this season
david nope
Leicester have as many first team injuries but don't moan
game over010
I think the crowd is also the main thing y liverpool is bad this season . Becuz liverpool crowd is well know for being the best crowd in the world there fans are the best but now there is no fans everything is quiet down IMO .
game over010
@borray s yeah becuz u never been at anfield lmao .
borray s
Lol best crowds for first 5 minutes maybe
Austin Chimanga
Liverpool management did not invest in the team, how can a team like Liverpool have 11 players only and a pathetic bench. Kloop cannot perform miracles in the event of injuries. Liverpool should have depth like Man City if it seriously want to compete and win trophies.
borray s
THIS. Beyond joke how people cannot see that the owner hasnt make any serious investment into the time in past 2 years.
jack barton
Scholes isn't sure if they went on to win the league without Rio? They didn't.
borray s
United won the league in 10/11 where Rio was on the sideline for most of season. Lets not forget United had Frickin NEMANJA VIDIC aside of Rio Ferdinand.
Rahul Mahale
That stat was totally bs coz to achieve points tally same or close to last year's points is not easy even if they were at their full potential. It's premier league bro
Mark Durham
The only ex United player that talks sense without bias is Paul Scholes.
David Dunne
They'll be lucky to finish in the top 4, I think. If their injury issues get any worse, they might finish outside of the top 10. Right now, they're in 6th, 5 pts ahead of Arsenal, who are 11th. It's not impossible. And if they finish outside of the top 7, they'll only have domestic football for next season. If that happens, they'll probably lose key players who'll want to play Champions League football.
vAquaa xo
Why is this such a common topic all the time? It’s as simple as we have lost all of our CBs and have forced our midfield there so then our midfield and defence are shocking
ArielAprillia Rachmann
Liverpool is the best. The best best who failed to defend the title. They just got lampard curse.
Lee Taylor
It's not solely on Virgil being out of action. Villa slapped Liverpool 7-2 with the full squad at the back
Everton FC
" TOP COMMENT- "Who knew when Pickford took out van dijk he took out the whole team... The best team in the world is a one man team? absurd!
hamberger 2 • 20 Years Ago
I swear every loserpiss fan keeps pointing out if "VvD WaS tHeRe wE wOuLd wIn"
Ayaan
No one have fans.
Master Beethoven
Aren't they just back to normal?
Christopher Ojapah
One word . Injuries.
Frederic Thomsen
Huge epilepsy warning for every second of this whole video . Also huge epilepsy warning for every second of every video on YouTube .
luke garrard
Easy finish in the top four is he on drugs
hedge bets
Nigel Pearsons Watford finished Liverpool.
Broceliande Forest
The Van Dijk excuse is rubbish... one word...Leicester.
pokro ken het vershil
last season man city had injury to so.........
Akbar Jahir
This is NOT Just VVD. Remember Without VVD liverpool were top of the table on New years day...
The main Problem is Henderson dropped into that defence. And No service foe front 3 !!!!
Maloney
Why these man dress like a secondary school chav
Alpha Papi
I love how he references how great the manager has to be much more than the personnel
Thor
What has gone wrong? How about they've lost their 3 most senior centre backs, then two of their most important midfielders from the title winning side have been playing at centre back (instead of midfield) to cover the loss.
So to recap: from the title winning side of the previous year, they've lost two key midfielders and two key centre backs. 4 key players from the starting 11
dudeguy24 1123
Its because the grass on the football pitches is too long
Mark Gorman
Is anyone else aware that the people of Zanzibar Island use Paul Scholes as a reference point for an albino when stating the difference between a normal white person and an albino?? 😂😂😂
Max Hughes
'Curtis Jones within his first year at Liverpool', he's been there since he was 9 🤣
Ivan Cloete
I guess he meant , Jones is playing his 1st year in the First Team !!
Austin Menya
Liverpool has gone wrong this season, that’s what
Reuben Hamer
Like this is so stupid from the whole football world. Whats gine wrong... Hmmm let me think. All 3 Cbs out, 2 most important midfeilders having to play CB and now injured, only 6 players who havnt been injured for more than 3 weeks, most VAR against decisions. So yh, oh and the managers mum has passed and is being berated by the media 24/7. So not that much, i guess they just not the same anymore. Pathetic, stupid football journalists and comentators and fans.
Gary John Nuznyi
The boys have been 100mph for the last 3 yrs and stocked trophy cabinet up with 3 most prestigious trophies in club football they are mentally and physically drained all for our enjoyment....they ran through brick walls for us the SUPPORTERS so now we lose we lose as one ....regroup and go again next season with injured back in starting 11 ....
the slash
Its all pickford's fault
jordan
Save yourself 8 mins. The problem is injuries. Now turn off haha
in4mus85
In short, EVERYTHING!!!! Injuries, VAR, no fans, lack of confidence, complacency, the works
Liam Tuck
Its not just the injuries thats affecting Liverpool. Teams have figured them out. Liverpool have their winning formula and the first time someone found out how to beat the press was Atletico Madrid last season. Now everyone copies the 5 defenders and 4 in midfield and it works against liverpool as they cant break it down. Now all teams that are against liverpool need one goal and all of a sudden if they do everything right defensively, then Liverpool run out of ideas. Its whats happened when they played against West Brom, Brighton and Everton. If teams sits with 5 defenders. Liverpool really do struggle to beat the compactness of that team.
FN5
Thiago has gone from a brilliant player to an absolute flop. Sideways passing constantly, no direct play, goalscoring or those lovely turns he's always been known to do, way too static on the ball. Looks a very average player atm.
Usman Chaudhary
Jermaine jenas talking like he has won titles, what a waste of oxygen
Puck
I can't take Jenas seriously, he's playing a part
Ben M
Everyone keeps missing the point the injuries are all in the same position 😂
TrailZz
Could have sworn there was Liverpool’s arguing with me saying chelsea had the worst title Defense lol
Paul Beadle
To all the Liverpool fans who have been messaging me etc see even Carragher has said it shouldn't have a impact on the team situation fools
T G
Aftershocks of the villa defeat
Barry Jive
Of course they can’t keep it up. Since mid Oct they have never had less than 6 players out.
Take all the centre halves out of the Utd side of the mid 90s and put Keane and Scholes there, make the team play the same number of games in a season shortened by 2 months and I wonder how that would have worked out.
Ash Williams
@Alex Turner not like ferdinand to wes brown was much of a drop 🤣 and Leicester did have a spell dropping points...
Alex Turner
Leicester had their full first team defence out for a month and had no drop off. Castagne, fofana, soyuncu and Justin.
Alex Turner
And that’s all down to style of play (press like a maniac for 90 minutes), lack of squad rotation and not strengthening after each season. Victims of their own downfall. It didn’t happen to United because Fergie wasn’t naive.
Ash Williams
Scholes sidestepped that tho 😂
Gary Heywood
Good teams win the title but only great teams retain it
Trevor Ross
There is no problem but the team is tried,they need a second team
Watson Crick
Liverpool is one man team. No Van Dijk, no title for them.
Sarthak Gulati
2008-13 rio and vidic both had plenty of injuries and missed a lot of games, united also replaced vds with a young de gea, lost players like ronaldo and tevez, YET won the league 3 times, finished 2nd once by a point and once on goal difference. standards were never dropped, they were always the team to beat.
not to forget before that United won 3 consecutive league titles 2006-09 and won the CL in 2008.
I dont see this Liverpool side coming anywhere near that, there is no comparison
Naz Osman
JJ should be on YouTube. He talks nonsense.
Ian Heffernan
Jenas has now probably put more minutes into commentating than he spent on the pitch
Ben Zakariya
It was about one time in three decades.
Fionn MacCuill
I do feel lots of the players don't have the same hunger/desire. Firmino and Trent being the most obvious.
Gr1ff1n -_-
They don’t have enough players.
Their first team is class.
They’re backup subs and res, that’s the problem. Klopp only had like 14, 15 players.
Paul King
Its easy to say worse title defence in history and then just dismiss the whole situation as to why thats been the case and just brush it aside.. name me another defending champions who had 20 injuries in that defending season 14 of which have been first 11 starters.. and also name me a defending champions who didn't get backed by their owners Manchester united Chelsea and Manchester City always get at least 100 million a season and more for the most part especially if they won the champions league and the premier league all kinds of players would join them... to just ignore how light our squad was even before the injuries and then factor all the injuries to ignore that is just being a hater and disingenuous or simply being dumb.. I can guarantee we won't be this bad next season...
Pro Brokers
Totally agree with the guys...
Mishal Gudka
Cannot underestimate no fans at Anfield...the drop started at project restart